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Good Doggy
Unusually straightforward Chinese name - "dog meat hotpot"

What it really is - a dog meat hotpot

Location - Backstreet restaurant





Everyone knows how English people are sentimental about dogs. Given the choice to either contribute to a charity for the homeless or to one for homeless dogs, a significant majority of the public opted for the latter. The idea of eating them seems to actually offend people who never think twice about eating other meat. During the 2002 world cup people actually went over to Seoul to protest about it.
I don't see anyone protesting about the eating of bacon, though pigs seem to be in every way more intelligent than dogs. Besides that I've never been attacked, threatened or snapped at by a pig.
So when I met up with my ex-girlfriend last week and she mentioned a place that served dog meat I insisted that she take me there so I could try it. The restaurant was tiny and down a series of backstreets. Here it is, and here she is:



As you can see, it wasn't anywhere near as classy as the previous restaurant. When I first came to China I'd have probably even been scared of eating here, but now I've come to love these places. The prices are cheaper, the staff friendlier and the food often just as good or even better.
By the time the food had come we were joined by various acquaintances of my ex. They ordered a very expensive, very bland fish. Then the dog hotpot arrived. As with the duck parts there was an oil-lamp fire underneath, and a covered container on top.



After a couple of minutes the top was taken off to reveal the meaty hotpot goodness. Besides the meat itself there were big chunks of ginger and nothing else, no vegetables, no rice. When you're eating a carnivore you might as well dispense with garnish.



There was a side-dish, though - a very small saucer which contained some fermented tofu. Fermented tofu is the Chinese equivalent of blue cheese - it smells even stronger and more sock-like than a ripe gorgonzola. The taste is also surprisingly similar. Most people have trouble getting past the smell. I mashed it up, took a bit of dog meat, and dipped.



I put a little into my mouth and chewed. The first flavour was the fermented tofu, sour, pungent, cheesy and delicious.



The meat itself was pretty good. The texture was like beef, but not quite as tough, and quickly softening. The flavour, under the tofu, was surprisingly mild. I'd been told to expect a strong, bitter taste, but it just wasn't there. It was just like eating a nice piece of beef, but leaner and more tender, and with more small bones.



There was even a segment of tail in the pot. It had been skinned and cooked for a while, but I just wasn't really up for trying that yet, so the ex ate it instead.



She was loving it.



The more I ate the dog hotpot the better it got. The ginger in the sauce complimented the meat perfectly. I've never really been a fan of really red meat - it's always seemed to me to be too chewy and gristly to be really enjoyable. The dog meat was just generally nicer. The meat came right off the bone and tasted very good - mild, sweet and delicious. The ex and I polished it off in no time.



Because there were so many smaller bones in the pot, the leftovers ended up filling up a bowl. The fermented tofu had to be rationed - don't know how I ever thought twice about eating it. There was a stray dog wandering about - I asked the ex whether she thought it would eat the bones if we gave it some. She thought it would know, somehow. I thought she had some very strange ideas. Don't worry, we didn't give it any.



So, all in all, dog hotpot is the heavily recommended. Don't listen to people who say it is poisonous - that's just the liver. Don't listen to the people who say it tastes foul, they are evidently just eating the wrong dog. Don't listen to people who make jokes about unidentified meat in low-priced restaurants being dog, either. It's one of the more expensive meats and if you serve it you'd want to advertise the fact.

Update: 10/1/2007

Since I wrote this a couple of months ago there have been more comments than I can deal with. Since I haven't the time or the inclination to reply to all of them here are some further points:

Vegetarians vs vegetarian-haters - I choose to eat meat, some people choose not to. This is all fair and good. Any further arguments are unneccecary, surely?

People don't really normally eat dog - Around here they certainly do. I see dogs hanging up in butchers' windows pretty much every day.

Dogs are treated cruelly - This is a tricky one, and a lot more complex than at first sight. The main problem here is getting independent information. There are a fair few sites on the internet with grisly details but these seem to all start with the premise that 'eating dog is wrong' and work from there. Aside from this they are all based on the Korean dog trade - I'm a long way from Korea and Cantonese food is as different as, to take an example, Italian food is from Scandinavian. This doesn't mean they are treated well, of course, just that it is near impossible to say. Local friends have re-assured me that many of the horror stories don't apply down here, but until I know more I won't be eating dog again.

Personal insults - If you have something to say I'd be a lot more willing to listen to it if you stay calm and don't resort to name-calling.



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dead dogs dinner
(Anonymous)
2006-11-08 08:53 am UTC (link)
that sounded so good i now have the urge to dig up my dead dog's remains and gorge on the feast within.and he's been dead 6 years...
edforever

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Re: dead dogs dinner
(Anonymous)
2006-11-08 09:56 am UTC (link)
Mmm... gamey.

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On feeding a dog the bones
(Anonymous)
2006-11-08 12:37 pm UTC (link)
I read in a book a Karibali- a small island country in the middle of the pacific- that the dogs there kill and eat each other all the time, due to the fact there's nothing else to eat.

I ate dog in Laos, and agree with you, it's yummy. Can't believe you ate balut though, that's just wrong, I used to leave the room when my ex was eating it.

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Re: On feeding a dog the bones
(Anonymous)
2006-11-11 01:30 am UTC (link)
ugh, balut - shiver!!!!!

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Rabies
(Anonymous)
2006-11-10 08:12 pm UTC (link)
is endemic in China

can you get it from eating infected dogmeat?

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Re: Rabies
[info]skullbound
2006-11-12 07:04 am UTC (link)
Educate yourself.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-10 08:27 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe, this being LiveJournal and all, that you have not been flamed mercilessly already. Mmmmmmmm, dog...
Whaen are you going to eat cat?

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[info]foodtube
2006-11-12 01:54 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sentimental at all about dogs, but I am a little about cats. A shame, in a way, as there is plenty of snake and cat soup around here.

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-10 08:50 pm UTC (link)
Eating any meat is wrong, you scumbag

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-11 01:33 am UTC (link)
get off it! not eating meat on pure principle is a disgrace to the culinary wonders of this world - and to humanity on the whole. face it, we are all part of a global food chain and refusing to eat meat is therefore going against nature!

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Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-11 04:24 am UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-11 04:58 am UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-11 11:40 am UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-11 08:58 am UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-11 12:04 pm UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - [info]skullbound, 2006-11-12 07:07 am UTC
Biologically - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-11 02:20 pm UTC
Re: Biologically - (Anonymous), 2006-11-11 06:54 pm UTC
Haha! - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-12 12:30 pm UTC
Re: Biologically - [info]uchikikun, 2006-11-12 06:45 am UTC
BONG - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-12 12:28 pm UTC
This goes out to all the preachy meat-eaters. - [info]foodtube, 2006-11-12 02:14 pm UTC
Re: This goes out to all the preachy meat-eaters. - [info]sheila_peitra, 2006-11-13 05:39 am UTC
Re: This goes out to all the preachy meat-eaters. - [info]detonate_for_me, 2006-11-13 02:07 pm UTC
Hmmm - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-14 09:17 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm - [info]foodtube, 2006-11-15 06:22 am UTC
Good for you - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-15 09:42 pm UTC
Re: BONG - (Anonymous), 2006-11-13 05:03 am UTC
Re: BONG - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-14 09:02 pm UTC
Re: BONG - [info]moscow_beast, 2006-11-12 09:36 pm UTC
Re: BONG - [info]uchikikun, 2006-11-12 10:00 pm UTC
Re: BONG - [info]moscow_beast, 2006-11-12 10:15 pm UTC
Re: BONG - (Anonymous), 2006-11-13 05:06 am UTC
Mmmmmm - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-14 09:05 pm UTC
Re: Mmmmmm - [info]dakazi, 2006-11-14 10:26 pm UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 07:24 am UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 12:33 pm UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 07:27 am UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 06:28 pm UTC
Re: Global food chain my arse... - [info]sword_and_face, 2006-11-13 07:16 pm UTC
scumbaggy me! - (Anonymous), 2006-11-11 08:32 am UTC
Re: scumbaggy me! - [info]srm_is_a_gimp, 2006-11-12 07:32 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 07:18 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 07:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]holyhackjack, 2006-11-12 08:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jet_loves_juu, 2006-11-12 09:51 pm UTC
erm - (Anonymous), 2006-11-13 12:18 am UTC
Re: erm - [info]jet_loves_juu, 2006-11-13 02:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]detonate_for_me, 2006-11-13 02:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jet_loves_juu, 2006-11-13 03:55 pm UTC
what. - [info]skullbound, 2006-11-14 10:18 pm UTC
Re: what. - [info]detonate_for_me, 2006-11-14 10:30 pm UTC
Re: what. - [info]skullbound, 2006-11-14 11:01 pm UTC
Re: what. - [info]srm_is_a_gimp, 2006-11-14 11:05 pm UTC
No offense or anything but - [info]srm_is_a_gimp, 2006-11-14 11:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]keithus, 2006-11-13 02:48 am UTC
Eating dog - (Anonymous), 2006-11-29 04:25 pm UTC
Effort!
(Anonymous)
2006-11-10 08:59 pm UTC (link)
Nothing I like to see more than a lady with some tail in her mouth!

Aside from the obligatory daft comment then this is a fine effort though the tofu sounds nasty. Next on your list, if your ever in the middle east, should be camel cock. While eating it a mate said "just imagine, thats been a camels pussy". That was slightly offputting.

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dog
(Anonymous)
2006-11-10 11:01 pm UTC (link)
ate some in nam, it was disgusting! but mine was cold served on some leaves and w/ a shot of snake wine-

-sequoia

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Re: dog
(Anonymous)
2006-11-12 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Cheltenham or Birmingnham?

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Yum
[info]apweiler
2006-11-10 11:38 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure I could bring myself to eat dog, even though I know it's entirely irrational - heck, I'll eat fluffy bunnies; I don't even *like* dogs but the conditioning is to strong.

But the fermented tofu sounds interesting. Seems to be making a lot of people go "ewww", but I'm a great fan of strong blue cheeses, so that stuff sounds *very* intriguing.

Mmmh, exotic food...

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[info]rob_t_firefly
2006-11-11 01:17 am UTC (link)
I'm a dog lover and would never eat one, but I still have to thank you for doing so and writing this. You've saved me from just that much idle curiosity.

Hooray for foodtube!

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[info]ritacelur
2008-07-17 03:06 am UTC (link)
For me, that’s the best thing you could have done to make ME happy. Yes, I’m that sad. For me, a Sheppard centred episode is good, but not the be all and end all, if you will.

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Ex?
(Anonymous)
2006-11-11 09:00 am UTC (link)
Sod the tales of dog scoffing - why is she your ex?

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Re: Ex?
[info]xvmorganalefayv
2006-11-12 07:07 am UTC (link)
Best comment so far.

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Re: Ex? - [info]foodtube, 2006-11-12 02:18 pm UTC
Bullet proof stomach!!
(Anonymous)
2006-11-11 10:15 am UTC (link)
I love my B3TA for opening my eyes to all these things you guys get up to!! I have travelled and worked in many countries worldwide and have come across some very strange food!! But I have never been very good at trying these exotic dishes!! I laugh my arse off when I see what your Bullet proof stomach can take!!!! I am proud of you my son!!!!
The camels cock btw i did try by accident, I saw one on a plate and it was remarkebly like a fried banana so I ordered it! only when I took the first chew did I realise my mistake, so now bananas are off the menu too :-(

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[info]bad80shair
2006-11-11 10:32 am UTC (link)
You've no idea what breed it is? I want to post cute pictures of one.

Fuck it, let's just asume it was this little tacker:

cute puppy

No wonder the meat was tender, this little bastard's never worked a day in his life!

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Dogs...
(Anonymous)
2006-11-11 01:21 pm UTC (link)
No offence mate, but with your ex and all that: Is this a case of Dog eat Dog?

Barbara Wodehouse
[always available to sort your ex out]

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Re: Dogs... - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 06:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skullbound, 2006-11-12 07:12 am UTC

[info]bloodyknees
2006-11-11 05:39 pm UTC (link)
That's disgusting.
I'd eat human before I'd eat dog.

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May I please ask two questions,
(Anonymous)
2006-11-11 06:56 pm UTC (link)
1) Why?
2) Are you a vegetarian?

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Re: May I please ask two questions, - [info]xvmorganalefayv, 2006-11-12 07:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skullbound, 2006-11-12 07:58 am UTC
Heh - [info]rubymurray, 2006-11-12 12:33 pm UTC

[info]moodring54
2006-11-11 05:40 pm UTC (link)
I have yet to try it, but I really want to. I'm putting that on the list of places to go in Korea, but there probably aren't many places in the city to get it because a lot of restaurants got intimidated by foreign protesters during the World Cup.

Maybe it's just having a family of farmers and hunters who raise/hunt animals to eat them, but I hold no sentimental value for certain animals. Some animals I wouldn't eat simply because in my mind I associate them with disease and filth, like rats. I probably could get over that though if I saw the actual food preparation from beginning to end.

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[info]xvmorganalefayv
2006-11-12 07:08 am UTC (link)
Sewer rats are diseased and filthy, pet rats are perfectly clean and adorable. :)

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-12 07:34 am UTC (link)
I love dogs, but I'm always up to try new things. I doubt I'll ever get the opportunity though :\

Good post :)

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How did it die?
(Anonymous)
2006-11-12 11:02 am UTC (link)
Have you given any thought to how the animal was put to death? A trip into the preparation area of the restaurant would have likely revealed an animal made to suffer a painful and protracted violent death. Eat animals if you must, but at least don't promote the inhumane ways in which animals are killed for food. If you eat animals, the least you can do to honour its life is to afford it the humanity of a quick and painless death. All animals killed for food should be killed quickly and painlessly, this applies to the more traditionally eaten animals such as cows, pigs and sheep, not just to the ones we in the west keep as pets.

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Re: How did it die?
(Anonymous)
2006-11-12 12:37 pm UTC (link)
How on earth can you know? For all you know they might have bought it frozen in a packet.

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Re: How did it die? - [info]foodtube, 2006-11-12 02:28 pm UTC
Re: How did it die? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 03:03 pm UTC
Re: How did it die? - [info]foodtube, 2006-11-12 03:33 pm UTC
Re: How did it die? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-12 04:25 pm UTC
Dog is a traditionally eaten animal - [info]gsyh, 2006-11-12 05:34 pm UTC
Re: Dog is a traditionally eaten animal - (Anonymous), 2006-12-12 09:38 pm UTC

[info]brillaint
2006-11-12 05:15 pm UTC (link)
Besides that I've never been attacked, threatened or snapped at by a pig.

I have. They can be pretty nasty sometimes, and they get much bigger than dogs.

I don't think I'd ever eat dog myself; the idea skeeves me out a little too much. But there are people in India that would call me a monster because I think cows are delicious, so it wouldn't make much sense to condemn anyone for saying the same about dogs.

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^this
[info]rubymurray
2006-11-15 09:45 pm UTC (link)
So much

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[info]fr0w
2006-11-12 05:32 pm UTC (link)
oh man, envy.

i've always wanted to eat dog.

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I'm so tempted to try it just because of the vegans or hypocrites
[info]gsyh
2006-11-12 05:38 pm UTC (link)
http://www.snopes.com/critters/edibles/dogsoup.htm

{or the dog project he set up a phone line and recorded an announcement in Korean and English, complete with dogs barking in the background. Two days after the letters were sent out, the line was swamped as Skaggs logged thousands of calls and taped messages from animal welfare officials, police, reporters, and various appalled cow-eating Americans. Animal lovers called him a filthy yellow devil and suggested Asians be deported, killed, or canned.}

{After the furor had been hullabalooed in the news for a week, Skaggs completed his work by sending a news release headlined, "Dog Meat Hoax Exposed." In it, he confessed his role and explained that his purpose has been "to bring to light issues of cultural bias, intolerance and racism," as well as to demonstrate the media's tendency to be "reactionary, gullible and irresponsible."}

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Re: I'm so tempted to try it just because of the vegans or hypocrites
(Anonymous)
2006-11-12 06:47 pm UTC (link)
As someone higher up on here said, thank you Mr. Foodtube, for settling my food curiosities, and keep it up. It is interesting to know what this stuff looks like and tastes like, but I only wonder. I don't eat meat anymore, but curiosity always pokes at me. And I don't need any mockery or stupid questions from the self-proclaimed clever-asshole-wishes he was maddox on a message board-dummy bothering me about not eating meat:
1. I won't respond, because I don't live here waiting to attack someone without knowing anything about them.
2. I don't eat meat because I don't. People eat meat because they do. Leave it at that.

I hope that every dumbass vegetarian or meat-eater reads this before they think of wasting more space on the web with something people have said so many times before, and of course comes with no results aside from the fact that they may successfully piss off a complete stranger for a couple minutes (or hours if they have problems with letting something go). Just don't bother. Assholes of the internet, Shut up. Forever.

Again, Foodtube, keep up on the reports.

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Everyone should read this
(Anonymous)
2006-11-12 06:57 pm UTC (link)
As someone higher up on here said, thank you Mr. Foodtube, for settling my food curiosities, and keep it up. It is interesting to know what this stuff looks like and tastes like, but I only wonder. I don't eat meat anymore, but curiosity always pokes at me. And I don't need any mockery or stupid questions from the self-proclaimed "clever asshole who wishes he was maddox on a message board" dummy bothering me about not eating meat:
1. I won't respond, because I don't attack someone without knowing anything about them aside from their diet.
2. I don't eat meat because I don't. People eat meat because they do. Leave it at that.

I hope that every dumbass vegetarian or meat-eater reads this before they think of wasting more space on the web with something people have said so many times before in an attempt to change or upset others and of course come with no result aside from the fact that they may successfully piss off a complete stranger for a couple minutes (or hours if they have problems with letting something go). Just don't bother. Assholes of the internet, Shut up. Forever.

I think everybody should read this just to make sure they know the truth before they post what they are going to post. And if this makes me sound like some self-serving jerk who thinks he's better than some others, that would most definitely be because I am. I think I am great, and I think that I am right on this one. I also think that if this made you angry, then you have a problem, and you'd not take offense if you thought you were good enough to take some advice, regardless of whether you have just been said to fit the criteria of a typical message board asshole. If you did meet that criteria, then simply don't be an asshole, and then you will not be called as one.

Again, Foodtube, keep up on the reports.

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[info]msginnyo
2006-11-12 08:49 pm UTC (link)


With any luck his life jacket will keep him treading water broth long enough to escape!

(Besides, he's so small he'd only be good for an appetizer.)

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[info]jet_loves_juu
2006-11-13 02:32 am UTC (link)
Veal makes a lot of meat. Why not that little ugly thing?

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yos
(Anonymous)
2006-11-13 12:37 pm UTC (link)
perverse

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Re: yos
(Anonymous)
2006-11-13 03:36 pm UTC (link)
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001944.html

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[info]staytrescool
2006-11-16 03:22 am UTC (link)
Hmm interesting. I'm a strict vegetarian and unlike most I'm not bothered by people eating dogs. It's pretty interesting. We need some faux dog meat haha.

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dog
(Anonymous)
2006-11-22 12:00 am UTC (link)
have u tried , a human yet, wotts it taste like, please believe, me i don,t have a problem eating dog, but its the way these poor animals are kept, in

bad dog boxs , or cages ,till kill for their meat, then again the chinese

will eat any thing,even the shark, and whale, are not safe

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-29 12:46 pm UTC (link)
Are meat eaters hypocritical to condemn the consumption of dog? I think not. Not even thinking about the fact that the dog's, well, a dog, surely the conditions these dogs are kept and then killed in are enough to turn your stomach?

I wouldn't eat a factory farmed pig that had lived it's so-called life in a cage, and died in abject terror, yet I love chowing down on his freerange, organic couterpart, whose spent a life outdoors, with the freedom to behave naturally. Same goes for cows, kangaroos, whatever.

Take a walk through the dog markets before you chow down next time. If your appetite hasn't fast disappeared, then maybe you belong in one of the cages, covered in your own faeces, waiting in quaking fear for the release of a painful death ...

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eat humans
(Anonymous)
2006-11-30 08:15 am UTC (link)
Maybe eating humans would be the next step for mankind.
Maybe if men eat human meat they will become even more "potent"
than if they eat other meat.
Then ladies will really go for guys like that.
bullshit!
KARMA you will pay for the pain you cause to living beings.
Don't worry you will live in darkness forever

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Re: eat humans
(Anonymous)
2006-11-30 03:47 pm UTC (link)
*sssssnnnnnnnnnnort*

Well said...

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Re: eat humans - (Anonymous), 2006-12-12 09:52 pm UTC

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